listen i’m incredibly sensitive and critical about the way women are treated in media but i also think people are Waaaayy too harsh on travis mcelroy for the whole julia thing. like fridging for manpain is a real issue in media but i think that when you’ve got a dude who has openly said ‘i love my wife a ton and i lost my mother when i was younger so losing my wife is a fear of mine i wanted to explore through a fictional proxy’ i think it’s honestly just, a little cruel to make fun of him for that. i’ve seen some pretty mean stuff said.
Additional commentary, in my opinion, yes there are a lot of negative tropes in the world but to say that those tropes can never be used is limiting af. Especially since it can be used to explore feelings for the creator.
Hey everyone! (cough @jokerteeth cough) It’s been a while since the last movie night, but I’m in the mood for movies. We’ll be watching a mystery movie, and then just whatever feels fun. Feel free to join me over at the Squad Goals room.
Wasn’t Tansy seed oil also used for birth control when you dipped a sponge in it and used as a barrier against the cervix during sex?
@marychain13, yes though it wasn’t 100% effective (the sponge blocking the cervix was considered birth control on its own). If we’re talking middle ages to pre-Enlightenment Europe, a more effective method of birth control was using a sponge or wad of fabric soaked in vinegar which also had the benefit of being easier to get. There was also the suggestion of lemon which was harder to acquire but was really promoted as working almost as well but being better for ladies, because it made everything smell fancy I assume?. Some people even suggested the use of salt, which, ow.
Due to its possible toxicity when ingested, tansy was sometimes suggested as an aide for ‘women’s problems’ (ie unwanted pregnancy) but that was/is a terrible idea that either didn’t work or almost caused the death of the woman. It is really toxic to overdose on, no one try drinking it ever please. I want to be clear on this, it can cause the sort of intense vomiting that requires medical intervention to prevent internal bleeding, seizures, and damage to the liver and kidneys. Fantasy literature kind of became obsessed with this alleged ye olde miracle birth control herb and modern women have begun to think they rediscovered something great. But tansy wasn’t/isn’t a miracle contraceptive and it wasn’t used that often as a form of birth control. It was actually used more often in small doses as a fertility drug.
@marychain13 Hey! I’m really sorry at getting back to your reply about tansy seed oil as birth control in the 1700s so late. All the stuff I mentioned in the post was still a thing in the 1700s. Tansy wasn’t very popular until the 1800s due to the whole being poisonous thing, but other oils were popular in the 1700s. Lemon, vinegar, and olive oil were all easy to get. Vinegar especially was popular as women could make their own. Midwives who could help with family planning would often make vinegar on the side.
Many “poison” methods of birth control like tansy, pennyroyal, and arsenic were popularized by male doctors. As they began to take over childbirth in the 1800s (and the unfortunate rash of baby farming in Britain especially) these methods were popularized to the point women began using tansy aggressively in a way they really hadn’t before. I hope that answers your question!
I’ll give you a pile of sources below. However. In the spirit of verity, a lot of my knowledge of the subject comes from genealogical research and working on community trees for organizations not historical papers or articles. So a lot of the sources I learned from were things like the entire bishop’s transcript for Long Clawson, or the court records of some county in Virginia (although if you are interested in that kind of research let me know). As that sort of thing is tedious here are a few scholarly texts to whet your appetite:
If you want to look at lots of juicy original material to sort through the data on your own and come to your own conclusions:
Here are free digital microfilm (some of which are indexed) that you can look through. If it says Browse Images the microfilm is only available as a collection of digital images. There’s everything from probates (what happens to a will after its been made) to church records (parish registers and bishop’s transcripts) of births marriages and deaths, from medieval to twentieth century. I should mention if you’re talking pre-1700, the only reliable birth, marriage, and death records are church records. No birth certificates and not everyone could afford a stone grave marker.
@songstone If you don’t mind me making assumptions I would suggest cedar which is both strength and incorruptibility and divine power. There also have beautiful cones – very cool all white and gold, check out this and this. Swamp magnolia is perseverance. The flower honesty would work, and it has gorgeous seedpods too, it’s all sorts of colors from deep violet to lavender to white. The honesty should be entwined with clianthus which stands for seeking self-knowledge. The two together should mean honesty to self.
Hey guys! I’m been supes busy with work and am now enjoying a few more hours of freedom. If you want to join me watching vintage priests solving mysteries and then whatever else I feel like, join me here.
A shoujo story where you need to hide from (or kill) your generic bishounen senpai because you accidentally saw him in his man-eating monster state and the only way you can detect his presence is when you nosebleed when they have their eyes on you.
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actual-locus said:
Lovely idea :D!! dont be sad if no one
has time – i think timezones are really far apart for rvb fans!
Aww! Thank you, @actual-locus! There’s always next time. I’d love to do a rewatch with folks that love the series, but I can also rewatch on my own if it come to it. Thank you for the lovely note!
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